Home Page Box and 3 Column Design?
I am using the COMMONS quite a long and asked the community to some aspects about have a bit more flexibility to custom a Drupal Commons installaltion.
As most of you know the most important point that gives DRUPAL COMMONS from the beginning a great success is the fact that we have customizable Themes and a great features-system, most indipendent installation and uninstallation userfriendly development.
So user that do not have ever before used Drupal can start they own projects. So why not expand this development policy?
Especially with porting to the new COMMONS 2 Themes a 3 colummn design?
Why not configure the default Home BOX to be customized by the user without havink to hack the COMMONS Core feature?
I have already tried to open a discussion about see ---> http://commons.acquia.com/blog/drupal-commons-online-comunity-why-do-we-start-play-baseball-drupal-commons-smaller-stadium-use
But I am confident that even if we provide on open souce basis this main custom design points there is still enough of work to support further clients, what you mind?
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Wolfflow, I agree with you. I
Wolfflow,
I agree with you.
I am currently creating a custom theme for a site I am building for Commons 2.0, and I am finding things I think would have been better to leave to the theme rather than forcing things as much as it seems. Almost makes me think about starting with Drupal Core instead.
I think until this is sorted out we will not see a great deal of themes for Commons.
Thanks for agree
I am not a proof in developing a new theme or try to modify the old Commons Theme since version 1.6 or earlier that provided a tree column design but I will for sure really appreciate if some of us want to join a working group for provide one as OPEN SOURCE THEME and try to propose to the Acquia Team to include in further versions.
If someone else is interested we can build a dedicated working group (sub-group) on http://community.thanage.eu/group/3-column-theme-commons-2
Cheers
Rubik & Tao (and Cube)
I would like to see a theme based on Tao and Rubik. I believe this would be the cleanest base and the lightest and therefore easiest to alter. I have lots of experience with Fusion (and Zen), and like them very much. But my recent experience with Tao and Rubik (in D7) has led me to appreciate the approach of resetting the CSS for browsers and much of the Drupal CSS.
Rubik had a subtheme in D6 called Cube that would be a good starting point. It will have to be ported to D7 at some point. Both Tao and Rubik have D7 versions.
As I understand it, these are the base themes used by Development Seed on their Drupal projects, which all look wonderful.
It takes a bit of effort, which is why doing this as a project would be very good. I would suggest just working with the existing projects and add a subtheme for Commons.
The point about Commons is that it has so much customization that it doesn't need a complex theme like Fusion. Fusion is designed for many different sites, but is relatively heavy, and much of its features are not used in Commons.
http://drupal.org/project/tao
http://drupal.org/project/rubik
Great point
Jerry,
Your point about Fusion being heavy is exactly why I started my theme from scratch for Commons.
I also thought it would be a good idea to stay closer to core Drupal for now, that way the upgrade path to Drupal 7 will not be so hard.
I see it a bit differently
Staying with core is one thing, but hundreds of modules/projects have their own ideas. The main idea behind Tao is to aggressively reset to a base standard. The advantage of working from that is you can start from the same point in D7, D8, etcetera.
I have no interest in redoing the browser compatibility work that is already accomplished in Tao, Fusion, Zen, or one of the other base themes. You can see the significant thought and time invested in their templates and CSS. Also, the clever people behind these themes are continuing their support for bugs, improvements, and migrations to the core revisions.
My point about Tao and its subthemes is that it was designed to have an aggressive reset of CSS to have a consistent appearance in all browsers, and then, as they say, "get out of the way". This means more work but more room for the theme builder, without continually overriding something that was done by others for a more general or flexible base theme.
When working with Fusion I seem to end up with hundreds of lines of CSS that are doing nothing more than overriding what Fusion has added in the base; but benefiting from all the rest.
So, Tao is like starting from scratch in a compatible way. My suggestion of working with Rubik is that it has added a nice style for form fields, something Commons would benefit from since it is an interactive website. With Rubik as a base, you can have an admin theme with a similar appearance to the public theme.
I agree on your points
I allow to add that we should not forget that the Acquia Team have other and higher performance disponinility as most any other COMMONS 2 users (I guess!).
One thing to consider..
The themers here at Acquia are REALLY fond of the Omega theme. If we (Acquia) do a new base theme for Commons (which isn't out of the question), there'll be heavy pressure from our internal guys to use Omega.
Sadly, though, the D6 Omega isn't the same theme as the D7 Omega. I'm not sure how this plays out, especially relative to D7 Commons.
WOW
I am really happy you guys joined this discussion. I really like the option of using Rubik & Tao as they are in a way compatible with the presence of Fusion. To be more precise I have some good knowledge of the theme and it's structure. Of course we do have to evaluate good the option of beginning from scratch or at list looking at the already exiting themes shipped with COOMONS 2 and try to find a compromise.
Mentioning Omega as the priority default Theme on which Acquia Team works and I am absolutely not an exepert with it, someone should by chance tell us if a subtheme of the existing one (I would prefer Connect Theme) can be adapted to have a 3 column base design.