Yammer like User Interface/features
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Yammer.com has seen a tremendous growth in the enterprise in the last 2 years. We could argue its User Interface, but many enterprise are now seeing it as "the twitter of the enterprise". I think that having a Dashboard close to what yammer has 'with a bit of Bluekiwi and Sharepoint 2010 ;-) ) would be great. With OG, Forums, Notifications and a theme guru, it should feasible at minimal costs.
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Interesting idea
It looks to me like we could be close to Yammer if we tweaked how Shoutbox worked in conjunction with the dashboard and user profiles.
When we provide a release with a way for users to customize their own dashboards people could definitely experiment with this.
And what about Facebook-style
And what about Facebook-style Statuses module? Why did you chose Shoutbox instead of this one? It seems llike FSS has better integration with user relationships. At the moment, all shoutbox updates are shown to the user. The interesting feature will be to show only your friends' updates.
The Freemium saas model is also a big bonus fro Yammer
See https://www.yammer.com/about/pricing
it gives them a user driven marketing plan :)
It may be too late for Acquia to compete against yammer
No sure Acquia would be a little to too late or would need a competitive advantage to be in a "blue ocean strategy"
Two round of funding http://venturebeat.com/2010/02/03/enterprise-twitter-clone-yammer-secures-10-million-more-in-funding/ http://blog.yammer.com/blog/2010/02/yammer-secures-10-million-in-series-b-funding.html
following a user survey the introduce quite a lot of feature http://blog.yammer.com/blog/2009/02/yammer-releases-highly-requested-features.html
http://blog.yammer.com/blog/2010/06/yammer-introduces-microsoft-sharepoint-2007-integration.html
+ client iphone / outlook / desktop etc... + google reader integration
They are offering inhouse hosting
+Integration with twitter http://blog.yammer.com/blog/2009/03/yammer-integrates-with-twitter.html
And there is already some opensource alternatives
http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/14/identica-gets-fresh-aid-in-quest-to-out-message-twitter/
Posted 2 starting points (feedback welcome)
http://commons.acquia.com/discussion/have-twitter-function
http://commons.acquia.com/discussion/when-user-named-see-having-twitter-functionality-user-get-notification
One thing to make clear:
Drupal Commons was built in response to inbound sales inquiries from customer seeking a social business software solution. The features currently in Commons were those that were desired by the customers we worked for.
Going forward, any new capabilities we add to Drupal Commons will be those that are either a) built by the community and submitted as patches, or b) built by Acquia for specific customers.
Acquia is not interested in building software speculatively. The open source world doesn't encourage speculative development. Speculative development works when you believe in selling software with licensing fees in order to recover the cost of speculation. Since we believe in open source, we don't believe in license fees, and so there is no economic model for speculative software development. Any development must be funded by customers - the same way that a LOT of Drupal (and Commons) has been built over the years.
So while Yammer may be interesting, it needs either a) or b) above (in this comment).
Is anybody on this thread interested in doing a) or b)? :-)
Going the a) way
we are engaged in a) ;-). we are exploring either using the forum module with additional constraints on the content and the theme, or using status.net , the micro blogging platform, integrated with Drupal.
But I am not sure there is only two scenarios a) and b) like you describe. For several reasons we can discuss around a beer, the community/customers/elephants/niche players are not always in the position to build the killer features that would benefit to corporate customers, Acquia, Drupal and its community. Acquia is in the position to do so, because any killing feature that boost large corporation adoption will benefit to everyone. But that's a discussion not really adequate in a feature requests forums ;-)
Cheers,
Denis
We need to have that beer!
Denis -
Sounds like I need to find an excuse to get to France. :-) I'll work on that.
In the meantime, is it timely for me to call you? Or do you guys want to do a little work first?
We'll be @ DrupalCon
We'll be @ DrupalCon Copenhagen, feel free to ping me there
Sadly, I won't.
But PLEASE get with Barry Jaspan; he's been running hand in hand with me on this project. I'm coercing him into doing a Commons BoF. ;-)
A BOF session at DrupalCon
I will be also @ DrupalCon and many others.
There is other actor who could contribute and share their experiences especially BrightLemon
Is there a time you think you would be a little less busy ?
@Jay: if you come to France,
@Jay: if you come to France, do not use http://France.fr to find useful information..... Oops, sorry, bad Joke. #YESFRENCHIES CANBUILDWEBSITESWITHDRUPAL
:-)
:(
I tried to get acquia involved at the very begining of this project :)
All this summer there have been very bad buzz in France about Drupal and performance.
With the media Drupal user group I'm runing in the French community I'm trying to put in place a public event with testimony of very large website using Drupal.
Acquia will be welcome to take part of this event.
A) is already complete
I've already built a very powerful microblogging platform for Drupal in the well-established and feature-rich Facebook-style Statuses module, as has already been mentioned in this thread. No need to re-invent the wheel. It was even the basis for a Google Summer of Code project this year and it's used by thousands of sites according to drupal.org statistics. And I'm working on another branch which will allow it to completely replace the Shout module as well -- hoping to have an alpha of that by the end of the month.
Jay, I believe we actually discussed this module briefly when I talked to you last week about a review I'm writing of Drupal Commons.
Cheers,
Isaac Sukin
I was not able to test your feature with communs ?
Does Commons work together with http://community.featureservers.org/project/self-social-network
Does it provide the integration of heat beat (used by communs) with Facebook-style Statuses module and the Facebook-style Micropublisher
http://www.slideshare.net/mediacurrent/social-networking-in-drupal-isaac...
Do you also agree that in
Do you also agree that in comments and nodes we would still need the module Mentions
Hi Isaac, Very good module.
Hi Isaac,
Very good module. We haven't realized it has evolved that much.... The thing is that we need to mimic Yammer like micro blogging tools, especially with Groups and Networks. We'll check you module to see if their is a way to integrate with Organic Groups. That could be huge....
Focus on the Module, not the Feature
That feature is intended to be used to put together a complete site like this one. It's not intended to be used with a distribution like Commons. But it's not the Feature that's important, it's the module -- Facebook-style Statuses (potentially with Facebook-style Micropublisher).
Yes.
I think that's a different topic, but Facebook-style Statuses works perfectly well with Mentions. (However, the Mentions module hasn't been updated in a year or so. Facebook-style Statuses has its own submodule which can handle @mentions and #hashtags.)
Thanks -- right, I understand. Facebook-style Statuses 2.x doesn't integrate with Organic Groups, although there is a hack available that adds OG integration at the price of personal status updates. But I've been working on a 3.x branch that does integrate with Organic Groups, and I am planning to have the first release out within 2 weeks. If you would like to help with that, the issue is here or please feel free to contact me.